WH Forums Turning Blackhat?
Posted on: August 6th, 2007 by BompaWH Forums Turning Blackhat?
Google is getting tough on the WH’ers. It’s increasingly difficult for them to get any of their pages in Google’s top ten SERPs and that’s where the traffic is. It’s just human nature that they will become more and more willing to “bend the rules” just a little bit in order to get a piece of the pie.
Here’s two examples I found today:
Ozzu.com
New Idea For Google Rank - A Secret
A recent thread on www.ozzu.com cites a “powerful seo technique” that involves locating your backlinks with Yahoo Explorer and checking if the homepage of each of those backlinks are indexed in Google. Most will be, but, when you find one that is *not* indexed by Google, you submit their homepage to Google. Since a new site is seen as high quality by Google, this will give your backlink extra juice. It seems too easy!
If you find many, this could boost your site straight to the top of Google’s SERPs overnight.
Of course, Google does recalculations on that new site and will greatly diminish it’s backlink value within a day or two, so your site’s good rank will be short lived. Unless, you can find many of these and submit them periodically. In any case, this might be a viable method for certain high paying keywords where a few days at the top pay the mortgage.
The Ozzu.com thread is here by matthewt New Idea For Google Rank - A Secret.
Ozzu.com (again)
Inbound links
seogeek asks:
Do you know this way of getting inbound links http://lzzr.com/blog/why-it-is-good-to-link-to-lzzr/ What do you think about it? Will it work?
It might be old news for some of you. It has to do with getting RSS feeds of sites that link to you, then placing that feed on a 3rd party, trusted site. In other words, if you boost them, they boost you.
The thread: http://www.ozzu.com/ftopic78800.html
True, these are not very evil techniques, but I think it’s a sign of the future and it means more marketing opportunity for those selling BH tools, ebooks, etc.
I’ll be watching for these types of threads and I’ll let you know how it progresses.
Bompa
perkiset
ROFLMAO - I guess every man has his price… and profitability is the one for WHs. Hilarious.
Gurtie
that’s not Blackhat, that’s waaaaaay too much work for too little benefit to be blackhat!
Seriously, all SEO forums, B & W, are full of overly complicated ideas. Its not a hat colour thing imho, just what :rolleyes: was invented for.
fantomaster
All so true - but Bompa’s point is about their tendency to push the envelope ever more.
Come a day when WHs won’t be fretting all the time anymore about “how BH stuff’s too risky” once they realize that rankings aren’t about hatty stuff in the first place - and quite arbitrary to boot.
Little point in sticking to the rules when the whole bloody game’s stacked from the start, is there?
dink
Yeah. Well, all of us know that doing optimization on your webpage automatically makes you a spammer.
The tightie-whities have denied this for ages. It’s a shame most are in denial, but I’m glad for that.
Some are finding that it’s a small step from being a spammer to actually doing some of the more innocent (?) BH techniques.
And, FM’s point about rules is right on target. It’s a Google game, with Google cards, and Google rules. You may only play if you don’t know what rule G is playing today.
fantomaster
Here’s another whitie pimping BH techniques with oh-so-cute disclaimers all over the place:
“14 Methods to Hide Text”
http://www.shimonsandler.com/?p=321
Guess what, guys: We’re turning mainstream!
LZZR
Bompa - thanks for noticing my humble effort but I really hate to be called WH - they are the worst breed of all. I might not have deserved BH title but surely I have nothing to do with webmarketing bunch self-proclaimed as WH SEO.
IrishWonder
>>Guess what, guys: We’re turning mainstream!
Yup - there was another thread at search Engines Land the other day about *GASP* cloaking! Can’t be arsed to find it and link to it as I’m on holiday and using the hotel computer with Windows 98 and very very slow lmao